I agree but look at the 3 women we met so far (Calpurnia, the teacher and Scout). Even though they are all female, are they all the same as far as control/power goes? I think it's interesting that Calpurnia, uneducated and holding a job "far less important" than the teacher, is a very strong woman by comparison.
And who is this...you have to put your name or I can't give you credit!
And, yes, the pace picks up after the 1st section, I promise.
This is Hope Flanders. I'M SO SORRY I FORGOT TO PUT MY NAME ON THIS! I truly hope that the women, whether black or white, that may show up later in this book, are trated with at least respect. If it's a black woman, I hope she is not looked at any differently than a black man--if that makes any sense. (Even though all "negros" are just "negros", i think men are no more important and the fact that men have been looked at as better is completely sexist. Could you imagine, maybe, the change in history isf it had been the other way around? Think about it! :D
Madi Jo: Calpurnia is the finch's black cook and she is kind of a nanny who helps the finch's around the house. Miss Caroline is the new young teacher in town and doesn't know much about the people there and is rude to Scout (daughter of Atticus).
One women in the book is Miss Caroline. She is a naive first grade teacher that flips on every little thing. She still hasn't figured out what it's like living in Maycomb. She is also very strict and doesn't like other people doing her job. Because she is new in town scout tries to help her out a little but it never really works.
I love this, Nick. I do think she's a bit naive and she uses her "power" as teacher to try to overcome what she doesn't know (and I wonder if she's even willing to learn) about the town in which she works and the students she teaches.
I don't think Miss Caroline is willing to learn. I think she doesn't want to change on where she came from. And yes the "power" gets to her head way to much. I mean for goodness-sack I knew how to read and write before I was in pre-k, and none of my teachers yelled at me for it. I'm pretty sure they were more proud of me then they were mad at me. Well what am I saying no one can be mad at me (LOL).
Calpurnia is an African American cook for Atticus, Jem, and Scout. For an African American, she is quite knowledgeable for they did not have great education apart from the white people. It's quite interesting to know she is very close to the Finch's. I think she is someone who is inspiring to other African Americans; both men and women.
Absolutely - I wonder if Harper Lee meant to show a good relationship between the races to inspire others to do the same. I never thought of that before but that very well could have been one of the hidden messages that only wise readers like you would discover!
Mama G, I can pull out what women did back in this time. I think I jumped to conclusions, they're a lot more respected and they aren't as put down as I thought H Flanders
Calpurnia is a black maid for the finch's. Even though she is black she can talk to the white community like she is white herself. She also hugs and kisses them on occasion. She is also very smart and helps scout with her learning.
She sure does, Casey. You will come to love Calpurnia (I think). She definitely breaks out of the stereotype that black women were not capable of contributing much to the world around them (I definitely don't share in that thinking - I know plenty of "Calpurnias" in my world!
I think women were not given the "good" jobs because they had little education. One of the girls we met did not do good in life because she had no education and could not get any, which was not fair.
Which girl, Nick? And I think if you look around, women today are still held back a bit because of their gender. I don't know if it's true any more but I know when I first started working, women were traditionally paid significantly less than men doing the same job. I think that speaks volumes about what we expect people to achieve. What do you think?
There are many unique and interesting woman roles in TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD, especially the way people react to their roles as a woman.
Calpurnia is Atticus, Jem, and Scout's cook in the story, and she truly shows her character. She is an independent African American woman, and she has various talents around the house. Calpurnia has manners, which Scout may lack at times. She has sort of a leadership role even as their cook, maybe even a role like a mother.
Miss. Caroline is a very... Peculiar woman. I think she just hasn't had the chance to be introduced to the new town, in such she wouldn't know the story around it. It takes a great deal to understand her, but if you step in her shoes, you would see the struggles she faces as a teacher in this foreign town to her.
Scout is a tomboy, a independent young girl,a fighter. She's dead feisty as you could say, always standing up for what she thinks is right. She has an extensive vocabulary too, not what you would expect for a first grader... Scout truly lives up to the saying that we are all equal, and we should all have a say in the world today.
The first chapter or two of this story were truly boring, but after a while, I found the flow of things... As if I were in the character's shoes. Woman SHOULD be treated with more respect than they are... Miss. Caroline burst into tears, Scout's opinion was dismissed, Calpurnia is shown as a lowly maid in some stranger's eyes... But the women in this story are strong. They have an unabiding love for what they do, and they should ALL have an opinion in life.
Excellent, Christine. I think Calpurnia does take on a motherly role in the household. And I agree - the beginning of the book is very slow going. I promise you'll find it more interesting as the story begins to unfold (we're almost getting there...hang with me for just a bit longer). Thanks for your thoughtful post.
Natalie scrivani Calpurnia has a huge role in the woman and womans roles. She is an African American who is a maid,servant,cook,etc. she works for the Finches and without her they would have to do all the work.
I love how they don't treat her badly. She is practically like family to them. Calpurnia is one of my favorite characters, being sort of a nanny/mother role to Scout and Jem. I do like how Atticus and the kids respect her. -Hope Flanders.
Madi Jo: So this week we read that Scout and Jem found the hole and someone (we don't know who yet) was putting lots of cool things in it for them. Right when they were going to say thank you, the hole got filled. So not only were they upset ahout not being able to get any more cool things, but they were also feeling guilty that they never got the chance to say thank you.
Scout is one of the major women in this book. The whole book is written in her POV. She is cojnsidered the tom boy of the story, you can tell that by how she acts. For example she ate the un wrapped gum right out of the tree, and did not think to do anything else.
Scout is one of the main characters in the story. She is the narrators. I don't think she is who she appears to be. In the begining of the book she acted very strong and courageous, but as the book progressed she lost some of her courage. For example when Jem lost his pants and he wanted to go get them she was really scared for him to get them. She didn't want him to go and get caught and hurt, but at the begining of the book you would think jem would be mad at scout for wanting to get something over at the radleys.
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Women’s Roles in To Kill a Mocking Bird is being a teacher. Women teachers could teach any grade in any school. The only problem is that they couldn’t teach African American people, If they were to teach African American children, you could get fined for it.
I think the woman's roles in TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD are getting somewhat more 'distinct' in the resent chapters... Scout is becoming more curious about her town's past, and therefore keeping part of her thoughts to herself, while her curious side sifts through newfound information... Her role as a woman is more daring, more spoken, but at the same time quiet along her actions... Women definitely effect the outcome of this story.
Wait until you see how women affect the outcome of this novel! Thanks for the post (and for those of you who are concerned this may be late, she posted it but it didn't go through since she was logged into her Google account, thus the posting error).
Madi Jo: Today we read that Mrs. Maudie's house burned down in a fire. We thought it was a tragedy but Mrs. Maudie didn't even care that much. She said she didn't mind that the house burned down because she wanted a smaller one anyway. She said she would build a new, smaller, one with a bigger yard for her gardening.
Scout is someone of real character. She has quite the attitude as well. I believe since she didn't really have a mother figure around, that is how she became a tomboy. She seems very knowledgeable for a girl her age which surprises me because I hardly knew how to spell half of the words she knows. I think her character shows maturity as well.
Ah...I never considered that. Since she has been without a mother virtually her whole life, she has few women around to show her how to grow up to be a young lady. She's got Calpurnia but the cultural differences probably would set most of Maycomb on edge; and then there's Aunt Alexandra...but she doesn't seem like such a great role model.
Miss Maudie and Mrs. Dubose are two totally different people. Miss Maudie is always has a more welcoming environment. Even when bad things happen she always has a positive look to things. For example, when her house set fire she wasn't sad about it. She just found away to make a happy look on things. Also when jem does something wrong miss Maudie doesn't flip out on him. she almost acts like his mother and corrects him until he gets it right. On the other hand Mrs. Dubose is the total opposite.She always puts a negative on everything. Also jem doesn't even to do anything wrong and she yells at him anyway.
Nick Taboni
P.S. sorry this isn't at 11:59 on saturday i wanted to make sure i didn't forget it this week :)
Might Miss Maudie and Mrs. Dubose be set as FOILS - so that we come to love Miss Maudie all the more while we grow to despise Mrs. Dubose? And that's ok - I'm glad you posted early so you wouldn't forget. There's always this Saturday!
Today, I finished part two of TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD. I have stumbled upon many explanations and thoughts about the book, and wow... I don't even know where to begin. To start off; I believe Calpurnia is a very strong and independent women. When she ran out to alert the neighbors of the 'mad dog', that was bravery. Bravery, a word of pride in many people's eyes. She had the heart, she was compassionate to tell others and think of their safety. She was brave and compassionate, she was quick-thinking, she is a woman; and I am proud of that. Woman should have the same level of pride as men, we are yet all human beings, we are all made equal. Calpurnia is yet a maid, a housekeeper... But to me? She's a mother, she's a woman of independence, she's one character I believe who will make a big impact on the conclusion of this story. Now who would I be if I didn't mention Mrs. Dubose and Miss. Maudie? If I were to state their differences; the list would go all around the world, maybe twice... Miss. Maudie loves life, she loves nature... Though her house burned down, she has a smile on, never dropping it. "Well, off to work!" I could imagine her saying after the house fell to the ground, and her, being herself, going to check on her azaleas... Mrs. Dubose is yet another character of mystery. Jem was infuriated by her rude comments and manner in which she spoke about his family and him; and I honor that. He stood up for himself; BRAVERY. When Mrs. Dubose died, it led a whole stream of questions to erupt. But one thing I know for sure... She truly cared about the Finches in life. Though the hardships they faced in between.. She cared about them. She held them in mind. Maybe... Maybe it was Jem's voice was the last words spoken to her... The last story unraveled, foretold... She left him the flower of a snow-on-a-mountain camellia, a perfect white one. Pure. White equals pure. I think that was her way of saying... Of saying she forgives him. For the flowers, for arguing with her judgement... For everything. It was a way of forgiving, and saying sorry. I think she knew she was being rude... But she just let everything go in those last few months, her last days. I think now... Jem has a different look on life after that... And Scout? She's still that sassy tomboy... However, I believe she is understanding life now. She's understanding the circle of life, the way everything works. She's finding out Atticus' past, the town's past, and maybe even her own. Woman have roles, and they are now being highlighted; bold letters in the sky.. Spelling out their pride. The words for these last few chapters would be BRAVERY and COMPASSION... Yes, I reckon so.
Don't give it away, Christine!! Isn't the 2nd book so good - your classmates are going to enjoy it, I think. I think both Jem and Scout have to grow up pretty quickly once the trial gets underway.
Mrs. Dubose was a new women in our book this week. She is the opposite of Ms. Maudie. She can't stand Scout and Jem, while Ms.Maudie enjoys their company. She is also a character that came into the book for only a short while. First you here about how she reads with Scout and Jem and then she dies.
The classic example of a foil character. And, for as long as I live, Mr. Gardon, I shall never forget your witty and appropriate reference to this bit of modern pop culture!
Mrs Maudie is a very strong woman because her house burned down and she did not care one bit. She was actually a little happy because some furniture was gone. -Nick DiNardo
And, although she's older (Jem & Scout would call her ancient, like Atticus), she gets a fresh start in life. Hey, wait, that makes me think of the people in the book who aren't going to get a fresh start....I never thought about that before!
As we continue to read on in the book, I have this feeling that Miss Maudie has more information that what we thought. She seems to know more things about Atticus than Scout and Jem had every known. Well of course she has since she's known him for quite a while I guess, but then again how many secrets does she know of Atticus'.
Recently, in TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD; Aunt Alexandra has stepped into view. I feel like somehow, she's a little unfair, and somewhat hard on poor Scout throughout this book... But I feel she has a reason. It might be that Scout, a tomboy herself, is not "lady-like" enough? I kind of have this little thought in mind... Aunt Alexandra could have been great friends with Scout's mother, and she misses her; wherever she is or even if she still is alive... Maybe, just maybe, Scout looks and acts like her mother, reminds her Aunt so much of her... Maybe it brings her pain to look into the child's eyes, maybe the same as her mother's. That's just my uh... "Guesstimate" you could call it, my random thoughts that pop up while I'm writing this here blog post. :)
I feel the same way about the fact that Aunt Alexandra misses Scout and Jems mom, but i have a different theory of why she is so cruel to Scout. I feel that since Scout's mom is gone or dead, that Aunt Alexandra has to be a mother figure to Scout. Then again, I also feel she tries to hard to be a mother figure to her. She needs to let Scout be herself. -Maria Pardo
Christine and Toni I don't feel like that they had a relationship with Mrs. Finch. My guess is that aunt alexandra is jealous of her brother. She uses Scout as an excuse and it back fired on her because they dont get along. Also now that Atticus is getting annoyed at aunty she's getting madder and wanting to do some change so things would back-fire on the Finch family but instead right now it's back-firing on her.
Calpurnia is one of tthe american characters in the book. She has changed some though during the first part of the book. She first was more of a motherly figure that the kids listened to, but as the first part of the book went on she lost the majority of her "bossiness". I feel like the kids now more listen to Atticus more then Calpurnia
Mrs Maudie is a very strong women in dis story. Her whole house was burn down and she thought of the positive s of the fire. She thought of it as a way for her to make more room for her garden and she said she said she wanted to get rid of some furniture any way.
Madi Jo: so far I have read that Calpurnia decided to take Jem and Scout to her church while Atticus was away. It was very different from what they were used to. They all talked like 'negroes' as they put it.
Lindsay Neilson: I think that Calpurnia isn't just the family help, but she is the family's mother. Scout and Jem don't have a mother, so Calpurnia seems to fill those shoes with how she cares and how she sometimes bosses them like a mother would.
I agree!! :) Calpurnia, somewhat in Scout's eyes, is like her mother. Though Scout is too young to understand the concept of what Cal means in her life, she will be very thankful when she grows up.
IKR!! Haha... Yes, I agree. I think Cal is just like a mother to Scout and Jem. However, she "bosses" them around mostly means that she looks out for them. I know when I grow up, I will boss my children around, but not in a negative way... Calpurnia is just looking out for them. She's making sure they'll grow up to be the people their mother would want them to be.
I LOVE Clpurnia, I think she is the onhe in the book who knows what she's doing the most. She is independent and she is also one of the only characters that don't annoy me...like Scout.
Aunt Alexandria came to live with the Finch's. Scout and her do not get along one bit. She came to the Finch's to try to give them a motherly figure but while she is there she is acting like a boss. Also another character that I read is Lula. Lula is a black lady at Calpurnia's church. When Cal brought Scout and Jem to her Church Lula act really mean and almost bratty at the white people in the Church.
Madi Jo: Mayella is the 19 yr old girl who 'claims' that Tom Robinson raped her. In court, Atticus asked her many questions, some repeatedly, to prove that she was untrustworthy.
Now Aunt Alexandra stepped into the Finches life. She is proper and is strict. I think she played a role of a women because back then, some women were proper and have there children be the best. She really wants Scout to act more like a girl and have the kids be the best. Natalie Scrivani
So far in the book, Aunt Alexandra moved in with the Finch's. Atticus is annoyed with her and like I said before, I feel she tries too hard. Aunt Alexandra is someone who sees that their family should be as upper class as she and has way to high of expectations for them. She needs to see that they are who they are.
Iagree. Aunt Alexandra is taking control, IGuess, too much. She needs to leave Atticus and the kids alone to be who they are instead of sculpting them to be people they aren't.
I feel like sometimes - especially with Aunt Alexandra - people tend to try to do the right thing but sometimes it turns out not as expected to be. Aunt Alexandra means good, she means to yes, like Toni said, have good expectations. However, Scout takes it badly - as Aunt A tries, very strictly to create a good environment for her... Somehow, I believe they are going to become great friends.... Maybe great friends as in a mother figure and a daughter.
Madi Jo: I don't think there was much happening in women's roles in these few chapters. In chapter 22 at the end, Jem and Dill were talking to Miss Maudie and Miss Stephanie. As they started to walk away, Miss Avery came bursting down the sidewalk to talk about what had happened. (Bob Ewell spit in Atticus's face and told him 'he'd get him.')
One of the main characters in part 2 came up in the previous chapters Mayella Ewell. She was the girl tht accused tom robinson of rape. I think she is unfair and acyts like a brick wall. There is no way a jury is going to go for the black man no matter what Atticus tried to do. Back in that time no matter who it was they will also beat the african-americans.
As i was reading I thought Scout had a womens role this time. even though she is a tom boy, she stands up for herself no matter what and she knows what type of things will come her way. Natalie Scrivani
Nice comments, all. Consider this: are women behaving as they "should" behave in that time? Or are some stepping up and outside of the traditional roles?
Madi Jo: Aunt Alexandra had her friends over for 'Lunching.' They all think that they're better than everyone else and they were talking about Tom Robinson. They said that they were expecting him to try to escape jail because he was 'just another n*****.'
I think Mayella Ewell is in the story a lot more now. In the story she accused Tom Robinson of raping her. In my opinion i think she is crazy. I guess she has nothing to worry about since Tom Robinson died.... just kidding haha Natalie Scrivani
I don't know for sure what the town thinks of May Ella, but I can tell you this; they won't be so sure about her if someone, somehow, finds out about the real truth about Robinson!! Or maybe it will just be one of those unsolved cases... Christine Mae
I have to say, Mrs. Grandits is right. They are not behaving how ladies "should" act, but whose to tell us what we should do. One thing I like in this book is that it shows many sides to woman and their independence. There's someone like Calpurnia and Tom Robinson's wife, who are working women. Men AREN'T the only ones who can do things too. Scout doesn't "have to" act lady like if she isn't comfortable with it.
Madi jo: scout and jem were walking home and it was pitch black out while bob ewell tried to jump them. Boo saved them though and stabbed bob ewell. When they got home, jem was unconscience and had a broken arm. Aunt alexandra gave scout back her clothes after throughout the whole book, trying to make her more girly.
What we've read in TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD by Harper Lee has been quite boring to be honest. I'm sure, though, it will get more exciting.
ReplyDeleteMy subject to post for was "Women & Womens' Role".
During this point of time, women did not have much to live for. Men were looked at as stronger, and women did housework and chores.
I think they deserved much more respect.
I agree but look at the 3 women we met so far (Calpurnia, the teacher and Scout). Even though they are all female, are they all the same as far as control/power goes? I think it's interesting that Calpurnia, uneducated and holding a job "far less important" than the teacher, is a very strong woman by comparison.
DeleteAnd who is this...you have to put your name or I can't give you credit!
And, yes, the pace picks up after the 1st section, I promise.
This is Hope Flanders. I'M SO SORRY I FORGOT TO PUT MY NAME ON THIS!
DeleteI truly hope that the women, whether black or white, that may show up later in this book, are trated with at least respect. If it's a black woman, I hope she is not looked at any differently than a black man--if that makes any sense. (Even though all "negros" are just "negros", i think men are no more important and the fact that men have been looked at as better is completely sexist.
Could you imagine, maybe, the change in history isf it had been the other way around?
Think about it! :D
-Hope Flanders 8-6, Period 2
Madi Jo: Calpurnia is the finch's black cook and she is kind of a nanny who helps the finch's around the house. Miss Caroline is the new young teacher in town and doesn't know much about the people there and is rude to Scout (daughter of Atticus).
ReplyDeleteGood, Madi Jo! What do you think of Calpurnia? I think she's quite a strong women despite the fact that she's: a. a woman and b. African American.
DeleteOne women in the book is Miss Caroline. She is a naive first grade teacher that flips on every little thing. She still hasn't figured out what it's like living in Maycomb. She is also very strict and doesn't like other people doing her job. Because she is new in town scout tries to help her out a little but it never really works.
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I love this, Nick. I do think she's a bit naive and she uses her "power" as teacher to try to overcome what she doesn't know (and I wonder if she's even willing to learn) about the town in which she works and the students she teaches.
DeleteI don't think Miss Caroline is willing to learn. I think she doesn't want to change on where she came from. And yes the "power" gets to her head way to much. I mean for goodness-sack I knew how to read and write before I was in pre-k, and none of my teachers yelled at me for it. I'm pretty sure they were more proud of me then they were mad at me. Well what am I saying no one can be mad at me (LOL).
DeleteNick Taboni
Could you imagine being told to tell your father to stop teaching you? That speaks to Miss Caroline's character for sure!
DeleteCalpurnia is an African American cook for Atticus, Jem, and Scout. For an African American, she is quite knowledgeable for they did not have great education apart from the white people. It's quite interesting to know she is very close to the Finch's. I think she is someone who is inspiring to other African Americans; both men and women.
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Absolutely - I wonder if Harper Lee meant to show a good relationship between the races to inspire others to do the same. I never thought of that before but that very well could have been one of the hidden messages that only wise readers like you would discover!
DeleteMama G, I can pull out what women did back in this time. I think I jumped to conclusions, they're a lot more respected and they aren't as put down as I thought
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Calpurnia is a black maid for the finch's. Even though she is black she can talk to the white community like she is white herself. She also hugs and kisses them on occasion. She is also very smart and helps scout with her learning.
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She sure does, Casey. You will come to love Calpurnia (I think). She definitely breaks out of the stereotype that black women were not capable of contributing much to the world around them (I definitely don't share in that thinking - I know plenty of "Calpurnias" in my world!
DeleteI think women were not given the "good" jobs because they had little education. One of the girls we met did not do good in life because she had no education and could not get any, which was not fair.
ReplyDeleteNick DiNardo
Which girl, Nick? And I think if you look around, women today are still held back a bit because of their gender. I don't know if it's true any more but I know when I first started working, women were traditionally paid significantly less than men doing the same job. I think that speaks volumes about what we expect people to achieve. What do you think?
DeleteThere are many unique and interesting woman roles in TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD, especially the way people react to their roles as a woman.
ReplyDeleteCalpurnia is Atticus, Jem, and Scout's cook in the story, and she truly shows her character. She is an independent African American woman, and she has various talents around the house. Calpurnia has manners, which Scout may lack at times. She has sort of a leadership role even as their cook, maybe even a role like a mother.
Miss. Caroline is a very... Peculiar woman. I think she just hasn't had the chance to be introduced to the new town, in such she wouldn't know the story around it. It takes a great deal to understand her, but if you step in her shoes, you would see the struggles she faces as a teacher in this foreign town to her.
Scout is a tomboy, a independent young girl,a fighter. She's dead feisty as you could say, always standing up for what she thinks is right. She has an extensive vocabulary too, not what you would expect for a first grader... Scout truly lives up to the saying that we are all equal, and we should all have a say in the world today.
The first chapter or two of this story were truly boring, but after a while, I found the flow of things... As if I were in the character's shoes. Woman SHOULD be treated with more respect than they are... Miss. Caroline burst into tears, Scout's opinion was dismissed, Calpurnia is shown as a lowly maid in some stranger's eyes... But the women in this story are strong. They have an unabiding love for what they do, and they should ALL have an opinion in life.
Christine Mae
Excellent, Christine. I think Calpurnia does take on a motherly role in the household. And I agree - the beginning of the book is very slow going. I promise you'll find it more interesting as the story begins to unfold (we're almost getting there...hang with me for just a bit longer). Thanks for your thoughtful post.
DeleteNatalie scrivani Calpurnia has a huge role in the woman and womans roles. She is an African American who is a maid,servant,cook,etc. she works for the Finches and without her they would have to do all the work.
ReplyDeleteWithout her, they would truly be lost.
DeleteI love how they don't treat her badly. She is practically like family to them. Calpurnia is one of my favorite characters, being sort of a nanny/mother role to Scout and Jem. I do like how Atticus and the kids respect her. -Hope Flanders.
DeleteMadi Jo: So this week we read that Scout and Jem found the hole and someone (we don't know who yet) was putting lots of cool things in it for them. Right when they were going to say thank you, the hole got filled. So not only were they upset ahout not being able to get any more cool things, but they were also feeling guilty that they never got the chance to say thank you.
ReplyDeleteI think you're right. And I just thought of something - I wonder if they are kind of sad that they'll never get any more surprises???
DeleteScout is one of the major women in this book. The whole book is written in her POV. She is cojnsidered the tom boy of the story, you can tell that by how she acts. For example she ate the un wrapped gum right out of the tree, and did not think to do anything else.
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Can't wait until you see how "Miss Sassy Pants" acts when we meet her aunt Alexandra this week!
DeleteScout is one of the main characters in the story. She is the narrators. I don't think she is who she appears to be. In the begining of the book she acted very strong and courageous, but as the book progressed she lost some of her courage. For example when Jem lost his pants and he wanted to go get them she was really scared for him to get them. She didn't want him to go and get caught and hurt, but at the begining of the book you would think jem would be mad at scout for wanting to get something over at the radleys.
ReplyDeleteNick Taboni
Interesting analysis - I think you're on to something. Maybe she is becoming "more like a girl every day" like Jem accuses her!!
DeletePosting on behalf of Lindsey who sent it via Google Drive well within the due date requirements:
ReplyDeleteWomen’s Roles in To Kill a Mocking Bird is being a teacher. Women teachers could teach any grade in any school. The only problem is that they couldn’t teach African American people, If they were to teach African American children, you could get fined for it.
Ah, Lindsey - making the connection between this and the Jim Crow laws. Nicely done!
DeleteI think the woman's roles in TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD are getting somewhat more 'distinct' in the resent chapters...
ReplyDeleteScout is becoming more curious about her town's past, and therefore keeping part of her thoughts to herself, while her curious side sifts through newfound information... Her role as a woman is more daring, more spoken, but at the same time quiet along her actions...
Women definitely effect the outcome of this story.
Christine Mae
Wait until you see how women affect the outcome of this novel! Thanks for the post (and for those of you who are concerned this may be late, she posted it but it didn't go through since she was logged into her Google account, thus the posting error).
DeleteMadi Jo: Today we read that Mrs. Maudie's house burned down in a fire. We thought it was a tragedy but Mrs. Maudie didn't even care that much. She said she didn't mind that the house burned down because she wanted a smaller one anyway. She said she would build a new, smaller, one with a bigger yard for her gardening.
ReplyDeleteMiss Maudie is a strong woman and how she loves her garden!
DeleteScout is someone of real character. She has quite the attitude as well. I believe since she didn't really have a mother figure around, that is how she became a tomboy. She seems very knowledgeable for a girl her age which surprises me because I hardly knew how to spell half of the words she knows. I think her character shows maturity as well.
ReplyDeleteAh...I never considered that. Since she has been without a mother virtually her whole life, she has few women around to show her how to grow up to be a young lady. She's got Calpurnia but the cultural differences probably would set most of Maycomb on edge; and then there's Aunt Alexandra...but she doesn't seem like such a great role model.
DeleteMiss Maudie and Mrs. Dubose are two totally different people. Miss Maudie is always has a more welcoming environment. Even when bad things happen she always has a positive look to things. For example, when her house set fire she wasn't sad about it. She just found away to make a happy look on things. Also when jem does something wrong miss Maudie doesn't flip out on him. she almost acts like his mother and corrects him until he gets it right.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand Mrs. Dubose is the total opposite.She always puts a negative on everything. Also jem doesn't even to do anything wrong and she yells at him anyway.
Nick Taboni
P.S. sorry this isn't at 11:59 on saturday i wanted to make sure i didn't forget it this week :)
Might Miss Maudie and Mrs. Dubose be set as FOILS - so that we come to love Miss Maudie all the more while we grow to despise Mrs. Dubose? And that's ok - I'm glad you posted early so you wouldn't forget. There's always this Saturday!
DeleteToday, I finished part two of TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD.
ReplyDeleteI have stumbled upon many explanations and thoughts about the book, and wow... I don't even know where to begin.
To start off; I believe Calpurnia is a very strong and independent women. When she ran out to alert the neighbors of the 'mad dog', that was bravery. Bravery, a word of pride in many people's eyes. She had the heart, she was compassionate to tell others and think of their safety. She was brave and compassionate, she was quick-thinking, she is a woman; and I am proud of that. Woman should have the same level of pride as men, we are yet all human beings, we are all made equal. Calpurnia is yet a maid, a housekeeper... But to me? She's a mother, she's a woman of independence, she's one character I believe who will make a big impact on the conclusion of this story.
Now who would I be if I didn't mention Mrs. Dubose and Miss. Maudie? If I were to state their differences; the list would go all around the world, maybe twice... Miss. Maudie loves life, she loves nature... Though her house burned down, she has a smile on, never dropping it. "Well, off to work!" I could imagine her saying after the house fell to the ground, and her, being herself, going to check on her azaleas...
Mrs. Dubose is yet another character of mystery. Jem was infuriated by her rude comments and manner in which she spoke about his family and him; and I honor that. He stood up for himself; BRAVERY. When Mrs. Dubose died, it led a whole stream of questions to erupt. But one thing I know for sure... She truly cared about the Finches in life. Though the hardships they faced in between.. She cared about them. She held them in mind. Maybe... Maybe it was Jem's voice was the last words spoken to her... The last story unraveled, foretold... She left him the flower of a snow-on-a-mountain camellia, a perfect white one. Pure. White equals pure. I think that was her way of saying... Of saying she forgives him. For the flowers, for arguing with her judgement... For everything. It was a way of forgiving, and saying sorry. I think she knew she was being rude... But she just let everything go in those last few months, her last days. I think now... Jem has a different look on life after that...
And Scout? She's still that sassy tomboy... However, I believe she is understanding life now. She's understanding the circle of life, the way everything works. She's finding out Atticus' past, the town's past, and maybe even her own.
Woman have roles, and they are now being highlighted; bold letters in the sky.. Spelling out their pride.
The words for these last few chapters would be BRAVERY and COMPASSION... Yes, I reckon so.
Christine Mae
Don't give it away, Christine!! Isn't the 2nd book so good - your classmates are going to enjoy it, I think. I think both Jem and Scout have to grow up pretty quickly once the trial gets underway.
Deleteoops!! haha I forgot. :) I'll try to remember next time!!
DeleteChristine Mae
Mrs. Dubose was a new women in our book this week. She is the opposite of Ms. Maudie. She can't stand Scout and Jem, while Ms.Maudie enjoys their company. She is also a character that came into the book for only a short while. First you here about how she reads with Scout and Jem and then she dies.
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"O Lord Jesus Their's a Fire"
The classic example of a foil character. And, for as long as I live, Mr. Gardon, I shall never forget your witty and appropriate reference to this bit of modern pop culture!
DeleteMrs Maudie is a very strong woman because her house burned down and she did not care one bit. She was actually a little happy because some furniture was gone.
ReplyDelete-Nick DiNardo
And, although she's older (Jem & Scout would call her ancient, like Atticus), she gets a fresh start in life. Hey, wait, that makes me think of the people in the book who aren't going to get a fresh start....I never thought about that before!
DeleteAs we continue to read on in the book, I have this feeling that Miss Maudie has more information that what we thought. She seems to know more things about Atticus than Scout and Jem had every known. Well of course she has since she's known him for quite a while I guess, but then again how many secrets does she know of Atticus'.
ReplyDeleteMaria Pardo
Wise observation! Keep on the lookout for more proof!
DeleteRecently, in TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD; Aunt Alexandra has stepped into view. I feel like somehow, she's a little unfair, and somewhat hard on poor Scout throughout this book... But I feel she has a reason. It might be that Scout, a tomboy herself, is not "lady-like" enough? I kind of have this little thought in mind... Aunt Alexandra could have been great friends with Scout's mother, and she misses her; wherever she is or even if she still is alive... Maybe, just maybe, Scout looks and acts like her mother, reminds her Aunt so much of her... Maybe it brings her pain to look into the child's eyes, maybe the same as her mother's.
ReplyDeleteThat's just my uh... "Guesstimate" you could call it, my random thoughts that pop up while I'm writing this here blog post. :)
Christine Mae
I feel the same way about the fact that Aunt Alexandra misses Scout and Jems mom, but i have a different theory of why she is so cruel to Scout. I feel that since Scout's mom is gone or dead, that Aunt Alexandra has to be a mother figure to Scout. Then again, I also feel she tries to hard to be a mother figure to her. She needs to let Scout be herself.
Delete-Maria Pardo
Ladies, I LOVE that you are chatting back and forth here! Keep it up!
DeleteChristine and Toni I don't feel like that they had a relationship with Mrs. Finch. My guess is that aunt alexandra is jealous of her brother. She uses Scout as an excuse and it back fired on her because they dont get along. Also now that Atticus is getting annoyed at aunty she's getting madder and wanting to do some change so things would back-fire on the Finch family but instead right now it's back-firing on her.
DeleteCalpurnia is one of tthe american characters in the book. She has changed some though during the first part of the book. She first was more of a motherly figure that the kids listened to, but as the first part of the book went on she lost the majority of her "bossiness". I feel like the kids now more listen to Atticus more then Calpurnia
ReplyDeleteI admire Calpurnia.
DeleteMrs Maudie is a very strong women in dis story. Her whole house was burn down and she thought of the positive s of the fire. She thought of it as a way for her to make more room for her garden and she said she said she wanted to get rid of some furniture any way.
ReplyDeleteSo, she is definitely an optimist.
DeleteMadi Jo: so far I have read that Calpurnia decided to take Jem and Scout to her church while Atticus was away. It was very different from what they were used to. They all talked like 'negroes' as they put it.
ReplyDeleteCulture shock to some degree, right? Or maybe a taste of being the minority and "outcasts"???
DeleteLindsay Neilson: I think that Calpurnia isn't just the family help, but she is the family's mother. Scout and Jem don't have a mother, so Calpurnia seems to fill those shoes with how she cares and how she sometimes bosses them like a mother would.
ReplyDeleteExcellent observation, Lindsay! Keep your eyes peeled for more insight.
DeleteI agree!! :) Calpurnia, somewhat in Scout's eyes, is like her mother. Though Scout is too young to understand the concept of what Cal means in her life, she will be very thankful when she grows up.
DeleteChristine Mae
IKR!! Haha... Yes, I agree. I think Cal is just like a mother to Scout and Jem. However, she "bosses" them around mostly means that she looks out for them. I know when I grow up, I will boss my children around, but not in a negative way... Calpurnia is just looking out for them. She's making sure they'll grow up to be the people their mother would want them to be.
DeleteChristine Mae
I LOVE Clpurnia, I think she is the onhe in the book who knows what she's doing the most. She is independent and she is also one of the only characters that don't annoy me...like Scout.
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DeleteAunt Alexandria came to live with the Finch's. Scout and her do not get along one bit. She came to the Finch's to try to give them a motherly figure but while she is there she is acting like a boss. Also another character that I read is Lula. Lula is a black lady at Calpurnia's church. When Cal brought Scout and Jem to her Church Lula act really mean and almost bratty at the white people in the Church.
ReplyDeleteNick DiNardo: I think that Calpurnica acted differently when she was around the church.Jem and scout were almost amazed by them being so different.
ReplyDeleteMadi Jo: Mayella is the 19 yr old girl who 'claims' that Tom Robinson raped her. In court, Atticus asked her many questions, some repeatedly, to prove that she was untrustworthy.
ReplyDeleteNow Aunt Alexandra stepped into the Finches life. She is proper and is strict. I think she played a role of a women because back then, some women were proper and have there children be the best. She really wants Scout to act more like a girl and have the kids be the best.
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So far in the book, Aunt Alexandra moved in with the Finch's. Atticus is annoyed with her and like I said before, I feel she tries too hard. Aunt Alexandra is someone who sees that their family should be as upper class as she and has way to high of expectations for them. She needs to see that they are who they are.
ReplyDeleteIagree. Aunt Alexandra is taking control, IGuess, too much. She needs to leave Atticus and the kids alone to be who they are instead of sculpting them to be people they aren't.
DeleteI feel like sometimes - especially with Aunt Alexandra - people tend to try to do the right thing but sometimes it turns out not as expected to be. Aunt Alexandra means good, she means to yes, like Toni said, have good expectations. However, Scout takes it badly - as Aunt A tries, very strictly to create a good environment for her... Somehow, I believe they are going to become great friends.... Maybe great friends as in a mother figure and a daughter.
DeleteChristine Mae
Madi Jo: I don't think there was much happening in women's roles in these few chapters. In chapter 22 at the end, Jem and Dill were talking to Miss Maudie and Miss Stephanie. As they started to walk away, Miss Avery came bursting down the sidewalk to talk about what had happened. (Bob Ewell spit in Atticus's face and told him 'he'd get him.')
ReplyDeleteOne of the main characters in part 2 came up in the previous chapters Mayella Ewell. She was the girl tht accused tom robinson of rape. I think she is unfair and acyts like a brick wall. There is no way a jury is going to go for the black man no matter what Atticus tried to do. Back in that time no matter who it was they will also beat the african-americans.
ReplyDeleteAs i was reading I thought Scout had a womens role this time. even though she is a tom boy, she stands up for herself no matter what and she knows what type of things will come her way.
ReplyDeleteNatalie Scrivani
I think that aunt alexandra tries to tell everyone what to do too much. She doesn't understand that Atticus is getting annoyed with her
ReplyDelete-Nick DiNardo
Nice comments, all. Consider this: are women behaving as they "should" behave in that time? Or are some stepping up and outside of the traditional roles?
ReplyDeleteMadi Jo: Aunt Alexandra had her friends over for 'Lunching.' They all think that they're better than everyone else and they were talking about Tom Robinson. They said that they were expecting him to try to escape jail because he was 'just another n*****.'
ReplyDeleteI think Mayella Ewell is in the story a lot more now. In the story she accused Tom Robinson of raping her. In my opinion i think she is crazy. I guess she has nothing to worry about since Tom Robinson died.... just kidding haha Natalie Scrivani
ReplyDeleteI don't know for sure what the town thinks of May Ella, but I can tell you this; they won't be so sure about her if someone, somehow, finds out about the real truth about Robinson!!
DeleteOr maybe it will just be one of those unsolved cases...
Christine Mae
I have to say, Mrs. Grandits is right. They are not behaving how ladies "should" act, but whose to tell us what we should do. One thing I like in this book is that it shows many sides to woman and their independence. There's someone like Calpurnia and Tom Robinson's wife, who are working women. Men AREN'T the only ones who can do things too. Scout doesn't "have to" act lady like if she isn't comfortable with it.
ReplyDeleteI think that Mayella Ewell is kind of crazy.She wants Tom Robinson to go to jail but what really happens is that he dies.
ReplyDelete-Nick DiNardo
Madi jo: scout and jem were walking home and it was pitch black out while bob ewell tried to jump them. Boo saved them though and stabbed bob ewell. When they got home, jem was unconscience and had a broken arm. Aunt alexandra gave scout back her clothes after throughout the whole book, trying to make her more girly.
ReplyDeleteI'm so sad our blogs are finally over. Great blogging all those in women and women's roles. :)
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